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Point taken. I am not well read enough to comment on John Stoltenberg or Andrea Dworkin. And because I think there can be a healthy masculinity and manhood, I might not align with the radical feminism out there. My own rejection of manhood is because I'm trans. But otherwise I am not at war with men automatically. I don't think all men are bad or that masculinity is something to be rejected no matter what (and dare I say that a trans woman can desire a cisgender man and a relationship arrangement that is looking a bit traditional even). The conservative men I am talking about are expressing a masculinity that clearly minimizes and limits women's options and possibilities in life. It really is anti woman, and this goes beyond just the trad wife thing. And I would argue it's not even a viable masculinity or roll for men to aspire to. But the fact that many of these men get away with it and it's part of established norms, means it is valid for many people. And frustrated young men are buying into it to whatever extent. And they're trying hard to hold on to a power structure and control that has been slipping away from them for decades. So these types are inherently toxic. If I call out the entire structure and arrangement in the United States for men and women, and marriage and the family as corrupt and toxic, then I'm instantly a radical Lefty and all of that.

But the example I gave is a mindset and a cultural framework more than a mere performance I think. See I'm not any kind of a feminist expert, so I get in the weeds real quick. But I know when something's not right. And I have my upbringing and decades of experience (yes much of it vicarious) as a backdrop and reference point to what needs fixing. There's an outright war on women under Trump and the Republicans. And that's been made clear at this point.

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Very interesting and well stated. But as for the education level, what do you do with men in The Heritage Foundation for example? Who hold PhDs, but clearly regard women as subservient and ideally giving up their selfhood for married life. Take a look at this about

Scott Yenor:

https://substack.com/@cyndilavin/note/c-236528989?r=72g83a

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